Is that when the wife doesn't shave her legs? :)

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A pile of tree braches in the form of a tipi! Surly nothing human would do such a thing.

I kid.

I think something is out there, and, it's most likely smart enough not to get caught. I think it's foolish not to study Bigfoot in some way that can be considered credible. Isn't that what science is supposed to do? Remember coelacanth was supposed to be extinct and it turned up alive and well.

Many say a corpse of some form or another should have turned up by now but I disagree. I have been in the woods all over this country especially in my native New England and have be once seen an animal corpse form so much as a squirrel. Many consider me lucky to have seen six pileated woodpeckers in my time let alone the unknown.

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Hi All,
As we thought its a hoax.

http://www.bfro.net/hoax.asp

or

http://dsc.discovery.com/news/2008/08/15/bigfoot-sasquatch-hoax.html

Ans a really silly one at that.

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Firstly, I want to reiterate that I am resident of Georgia, NOT a native of GA. Just wanted that to be known before I get stereotyped with all of the Native Georgians that I might happen to rub elbows with. Luckily, this story was dropped here in Atlanta before anyone could get wind of it locally as we are trying very hard to update our image with the other 49 states...

Aye, there's nary an animal alive that can outrun a greased scotsman...

oh excuse me coff coelacanth coff extinct. (clears thoat)

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Those two numb-skulls must have known in the age of DNA testing they weren’t going to get away with it for to long. They got paid and now they are on their way somewhere. I knew it was a hoax from the moment it was announced. As stated in a pervious post skeptics and “skeptics” have been shouting for a corpse for years and in all my time in the woods I have never seen a copse of any kind. It very Piltdown Man.

However my point about coelacanth is this:

1)Given the vastness of the PNW and Canada hunting anything elusive would be very hard.

2)The coelacanth was believed and dare I say known to be extinct so it stayed that way. Granted it turned up in accidentally in 1938 but it wasn’t until 1952, 1997, 1998 that another showed up.

Here is a living creature we know to exist and it’s still hard to get to.
More over it strikes me as highly unimaginative and un-scientific to discount the existence of such a creature as Big Foot simply because we know “it’s a myth.” How about credible investigation into the creature and try and find out what it is? If coelacanth can survive why couldn’t a creature like gigantopithecus?

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This topic, along with some of the feelings it has brought up, made me think of several fitting quotes. The first quote states my point of view wonderfully, while the second is ironically accurate here (I think you'll agree). I also included one of my own that is influenced by the 22nd Verse of the Tao Te Ching.

"All we know is still infinitely less than all that remains unknown."
- William Harvey
English physician (1578 - 1657)

"We have found a strange footprint on the shores of the unknown. We have devised profound theories, one after another, to account for its origins. At last, we have succeeded in reconstructing the creature that made the footprint. And lo! It is our own."
- Sir Arthur Eddington
from Space, Time, and Gravitation, 1920
English astronomer (1882 - 1944)

"If we only believe what we see and only pay attention to what we know, we will become frail and stagnant. If we are not flexible in our lives, we are as fragile as a closed mind. Without flexibility of thought, spirit, and knowledge; those parts of us will be easily broken, like branches from the tree of life."
- Leigh Pierce
Author of the children's books;
AmBUSHed: A Children's Tale of Deceit
Violence and Guns At the Expense of Our Young

I know this thread has become a soapbox/debating ground for conspiracy buffs and cynics, but I just wanted to remind people that sometimes it's just good to have something to wonder about. Look at your kids guys. How horrible would their little lives be and how depressing would their outlook be if they never believed in the unknown? Simply believing in things such as Santa, the Easter Bunny, the Tooth Fairy and even Dragons keeps our children happy, curious, and positive about learning and their future in general. Maybe we should all just take a lesson from them and enjoy things just for the sake of enjoying them. I'm sorry if I'm sounding too "new-age" or flaky. I just wanted to share my feelings about all this. Now I'm going to go and read Pete's Dragon to my boys.

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A typical and, unsurprising response, I would add you left out, The Brocken Specter, Dragons, Cyclopes, Sirens, Wood Nymphs, The Furriers, the Texas Pterosaurand, Mokele-Mbembe, Valkyries , and honest men in Washington.

It fascinates me that people – not just you TickTock I hold your opinion in the highest esteem – simply decide that something isn’t and that’s that. The difference between Bigfoot and say a Minotaur is that their aren’t repeated sightings of Minotaur in North America, or of the Yeti in The Himalayas. (I doubt that Edmond Hillary faked his photos and made up a story to enhance his reputation.) There isn’t any evidence at all that said creatures exist. It is possible to trace their existence via western dramatic and story telling traditions.

However there are sightings dating back centuries of Sasquatch or Bigfoot. There is evidence, all of which is discounted as hoax as a mater of routine, that something lives in North America that we don’t yet understand. But, of course it’s a hoax because almighty science can’t find proof and anyone looking for such a creature is bent. Remember that archeology was an amateur sport for about 50 years but now men like Heinrich Schliemann are considered pioneers rather than cranks because he believed that Troy had been a real place and not a myth. George Cuvier said that the bones that were turning up in Paris were from extinct animals and skeptics laughed because all that was to be know was known. And, since underwater archeology is in it’s infancy most archeologists have simply discounted the Yonaguni Jima sight off the coast of Japan.

So science should shine its penetrating light into corners where it knows it will find something? Of course there are hoaxes and what not but doesn’t the scientific mind want to see though such things and reveal a greater truth?

I also find it fascinating that the existence of the coelacanth is dismissed as trivial by skeptics. In a court of law that would be called precedence. An animal known to be extinct turns up alive and well, (Yawn) tut-tut no biggie.

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I agree that the Bigfoot is speculation. But, many feel there is enough evidence to warrant an investigation. Many scientists have looked and continue to look for the Loc Ness Monster and haven’t really turned up anything. They do however keep looking. What makes eye witness accounts and some credible footage and photos more subject to investigation than others?

Coelacanth showed up by accident. No one speculated it was still alive and the specimen found was subject to scrutiny.

From Wikipidea, [citation needed]

“On December 23, 1938, Hendrik Goosen, the captain of the trawler Nerine, returned to the harbour at East London, South Africa, after a trawl around the mouth of the Chalumna River. As he frequently did, he telephoned his friend, Marjorie Courtenay-Latimer, curator at East London's small museum, to see if she wanted to look over the contents of the catch for anything interesting. At the harbour, Latimer noticed a blue fin and took a closer look. There she found what she later described as "the most beautiful fish I had ever seen, five feet long, and a pale mauve blue with iridescent silver markings."

Failing to find a description of the creature in any of her books, she attempted to contact her friend, Professor James Leonard Brierley Smith, but he was away for Christmas. Unable to preserve the fish, she reluctantly sent it to a taxidermist. When Smith returned, he immediately recognized it as a coelacanth, known only from fossils. Smith named the fish Latimeria chalumnae in honor of Marjorie Courtenay-Latimer and the waters in which it was found. The two discoverers received immediate recognition, and the fish became known as a "living fossil." The 1938 coelacanth is still on display in the East London, South Africa, museum.

However, as the specimen had been stuffed, the gills and skeleton were not available for examination, and some doubt therefore remained as to whether it was truly the same species. Smith began a hunt for a second specimen that would take more than a decade.”

An actual specimen and it still needed more proof. I’m not against such scrutiny but one must keep their eyes and mind open. Bigfoot isn’t a pixie it may be myth but there is something out there we don’t know.

Hillary did distance himself from his story because, (ahem) extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Hillary and most expeditions to find the Yeti usually find little except folklore and on occasion footprints. More solid evidence exists for the Bigfoot, in photos, film/video footage, droppings, hair, audio recordings, and of course witnesses.

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Recently I have seen a man pulling a child around in a wagon along the pathway to the park behind my house. I'm a bit skeptical since I only see them just before dusk, but I have a feeling there may be another SAHDsquatch in my neighborhood! I was thinking of setting up some motion-activated cameras or a pit trap; but it may be easier if I changing the timing on my evening walks in an effort to get a closer look at the mythical beast.

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Those photos from Penn didn't make any sense because it didn't look like a hominid... or anything recognizable. The fact that two bear cubs preceded the animal leads me to think that the mangy bear theory would be the best guess. The camera just captured it at a weird angle.

I only understand the simplified version of string theory (the math is way over my head). But, as I understand it, string theory is a possible answer to a question that we know requires an answer. Perhaps the large Hadron Collider will find those answers when it starts up next month. I think Bigfoot is plausible given that it doesn't change the known laws of physics (i.e. psychics), but it doesn't answer a question that requires an answer. For instance, the question of eye-witness sightings can be answered that subjective experience can be corrupted- a hoaxer, a confused hunter, a liar, someone with an over-active imagination, etc. But, if we found an actual hair or DNA that defied explanation, or we had a clear and direct video recording of an interaction, then we would have a question that required an answer.

I think skeptics would accept that Bigfoot is real if there were a body dead or alive. It isn't quite accurate to state that no evidence will be good enough. Cataloging a species is quite easy once a specimen is found. Aliens might be harder to accept, but I think any skeptic would be extremely excited if an extra-terrestrial body was found. It would change physics itself, since even the nearest star would take centuries to visit... even at the speed of light.

God, I think, would be the hardest to accept because... well, how would you know... a big bearded guy with light shining out of him, and miracles occuring, and instant transcendental wisdom? I guess that would do it for me. :)
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