In-Law issues

dandkweeks
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I have a 2 year old daughter and a newborn son. These are the only two grand kids on both my wife's side as well as mine. I have issues at times with her parents when it comes to my children. I feel as though they do not listen to us when we ask them not to do certain things. They will make comments at times that makes me think, "don't forget that we are the parents..." My wife and I are in a bit of a bind when we need someone to watch our kids overnight, because it usually has to be her parents. My wife will get defensive at times when I complain about their actions, and this causes friction.

Please provide some perspective so I can stop being pissed off at my in-laws!




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help me too

I only have the 10 month old and it's the only grandchild on her side of the family but i'm in the same boat with the watching him overnight thing too. so if anyone else has some ideas please let me know also :)



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Just to understand

You say they don't listen when you ask them to not do things. What are these things? Feeding them junk for dinner? Poking them with hot needles? Not letting them watch TV?

Also, you mention that you "need someone to watch our kids overnight." Are you both working night shifts?

I just want to understand a little better.



cowabungachris
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tread lightly...

i'd warn you to tread lightly where your wife's feelings are concerned. i can totally understand about your frustrations with you inlaws though.

my wife is asian, and her parents have lived in this country since the early eighties. lets say that they have clung to their native culture more than they have embraced the american way of life. they don't speak english well, making it hard to communicate with them. they are also buddhist, where my wife and i are christian. to make a long story short, there are many potential conflicts that can, and sometimes have arised between myself and my wife's family. i hate to say that my wife has been brought to tears because of conflict between myself and her parents.

i've come to realize that sometimes, maybe even often, its better to back down and let things go in order to save harmony between my wife and i. i've learned to pick my battles because often the things that i used to get worked up about just aren't worth getting upset over. there are some things that i stand my ground on, but i've learned that my relationship with my wife is more important than getting my way or coming out on top in a conflict with my inlaws. actually, my wifes parents are some of the kindest and well-intentioned people i've ever met. i've had to learn to mellow out, and its helped me alot.

my advice is to pick your battles wisely and let things go that might not matter if you look back at them a year from now. it might save you some heartache in the long run, and will certainly keep you from looking like a rigid and stubborn husband in your whole family's eyes.



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It probably goes both ways

As much as you have problems with your in-laws, I'm willing to bet your wife has problems with her's as well.

I've been in this situation only worse, my parents and hers. The way I see it, if they are unwilling to follow your wishes and guidelines when it comes to your children, they don't need contact with them. It may sound cruel, but consider this, if a daycare provider or a babysitter wasn't willing to follow your instructions, what would you do? What if any of the rest of your family was unwilling to do things your way? Just because they're family does not absolve them of the responsibility to follow your wishes when it comes to your children.

I've had to tell my mother-in-law that if she so much as touches a drop of alcohol she isn't allowed around our kids (she and her husband drink like they're college freshmen). I've told my own mother that if she doesn't start following our wishes, she won't be allowed contact with our kids.

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PittCaleb
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Two Thoughts

I have in-law issues also, my FIL doesn't respect my decision to stay home and his daughters decision to work (she has a PhD mind you!). So our problems are deep-seeded...

1 - They are your kids, your rules apply or they don't get to watch them. There's a reason that when we lived in the mid-west, our kids never did overnights with the in-laws either at their place or ours. Like GWB said, first and foremost, "these are your children, don't let them think otherwise"

2 - You use the phrase "need someone for overnight." My guess is that would more correctly state "want someone for overnight so we can go away and enjoy ourselves without children." Hey, we've done overnights, and like I said, never with family watching. We have some close friends we know through church and went to the Bahamas for 5-days once, done weekends a couple times, etc. But the reality is you don't NEED your in-laws for overnights, you simply want them and want to get away for an overnight. The question is are the problems you have (safety? mere annoyances?) with the in-laws worth this weekend get-away? Perhaps not and you wait till you find friends you are comfortable leaving your kids with.

Good Luck!
PittCaleb



dandkweeks
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clarification

My In-Laws will do things like feed my daughter a bunch of junk food when we ask them not to. Or, they will let her get away with things that we do not allow at home (i.e. going through kitchen drawers or rummaging through items at someone else's house). I agree with cowabungachris in that I need to choose my battles wisely and not upset my wife.

As for the overnights, I am a Youth Director, so there are times when I take my youth on trips and the only people we really have to watch our kids overnight are my In-Laws. This doesn't happen too much, but when we do need them, I feel as though they realize that they are going to watch them and we can not do anything about it.

My In-Laws have helped us out a lot, don't get me wrong. They have been there for us at times of need and we have a decent relationship over all. We are just different people. I am a city boy and they are small town folk. My In-Laws freaked out the other day when I said I would rather live back by Chicago than the small central Illinois community we live in now. I thought to myself, "I didn't know you had a say in it..."

As for her In-Laws, they are pretty much never around. My family is very dysfunctional and no one really talks to one another. I am put in the middle betwen my mom and brother, and also my mom and grandma. They also live about 1.5 hours further away than her family does. So yeah, she doesn't have an ideal situation with her In-Laws, but at least she doesn't have to deal with them nearly as much as I deal with hers.

Ok, enough venting! I need to accept my wife's family for who they are but "protect" my children.

Thanks for this outlet to gripe!

Dustin



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Greatfull

dandkweeks
This is a tough one I admit, but, try and show gratatude and smile and say thanks when they help you out. I know I've done that through clenched teeth myelf. My daughter came back from my in-laws exhausted, dirty, and with diaper rash. They had been playing with her at the park, in the house, singing and dancing, but they didn't try and get her her to nap, and had her up so late they didn't giver her a bath before they brought her home to us. My wife and I were upset but we know that Chellie and Bill would open a vein for their granddaughter. They have been very generious with their time so we don't complain. They have been better with naps and following or wishes. But, our daughter looooves grandma and grandpa so we know they lover her up while she is in their care.

It's a tricky situation, but if you need them to help try and phrase it in such a way as to imply no one else is as good as grandma and grandpa. Thank them as muich as you can. If you show gratatude they will relax and feel appreciated. This seems a little counterituative but one does get more flies with honey than vinigar.

PS I totaly think you are in the right but we must all learn new polotics when kids come along. :0)

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cowabungachris
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if it doesn't kill 'em.....

i have only been a parent now for a little over a year, so i haven't had to deal with grandparent issues all that much yet.

i only have a father who lives an hour away. he's the only inlaw my wife has to deal with. i don't have to worry about leaving my little girl with him, because we wouldn't. at least not as a toddler still in diaper. my pop is old school navy man who never even changed one of my daipers. my wife loves him to death though because he doesn't cause any waves between us at all. she thinks he's totally repectful of all our wishes, especially on how we chose to raise our little sophia.

my inlaws live in iowa whereas we live on the north carolina coast. we only see them maybe twice a year, so we don't have to worry about them meddling in how we do things. we visited them last year at xmas, and i can't really say i saw much that i had a problem with as far as their interference with our parenting. they are buddhists, and we are christian. they held some kind of blessing ceremony for our little girl, but they didn't have any monks come because i think they thought i might be uncomfortable with it. although if they asked to take sophia to temple with them one day, i don't think i'd have to much a problem with it. i think it would be unfair for me to deny my child the exposure of my inlaws beliefs even though i don't buy it myself. yes, i want to bring my child up in a christian household, but i don't feel it's necessary to deny my inlaws the chance to share their experiences and beliefs with my child as long as they aren't forcing it on her.

the way i look at the inlaw issue and them doing things we aren't wild about, i.e. junk food snacks, or late bedtimes. if it doesn't kill them, then why worry about it. i think that's one of the things little kids love about getting to stay with grandparents, cause they get away with just a little bit more than with the parent. i think life is too short to wig out about the little things, when a year or so from now, little things like sophia staying up later than we like while staying with grandpa won't matter that much in the long run.

i guess maybe you guys might see me as a too liberal, and that's cool. we all bounce ideas off each other for support and maybe to learn from one another. and i guess the fact that i don't have to deal with my inlaws much since they are far away might make me seem unqualified to comment, but that's just my two cents, for what it's worth.

i think the biggest thing that irks me about inlaws is that they've lived in the US for over 25 years now, and still speak very little english and can't communicate with me very well. but then again, i really only have taken the time to learn the Lao swear words mostly, ha ha.



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I agree with the guys

I agree with the guys above...if it's not going to kill them, don't sweat it. My parents often give the kids more candy, let them stay up later, allow them to forget mannors, etc...but in the long run, they love the kids almost as much as we do. They raised me and I turned out halfway decently (shut up a few of you with smart ass comments :P) so I know that they aren't going to do anything to harm my kids either. As for the over night thing...being involved as a youth leader in a church I'm guessing there are many potential friends to be made there. Find some and work on those friendships. Although lately it's been on rocky grounds for some unknown reason, the best friends we have from church have been a HUGE help to us (and us to them) when family couldn't help.

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my advice

I say let the grandparents spoil them to a point, but not past your personal limit. For instance, if you are vegan, feeding meat should be a line that they don't cross. But, if you generally dislike fast food, a happy meal won't kill them. What I'm saying is that it depends on the level of your conviction.

A good way to handle this is not to get self-righteous and indignant, but to treat it lightly. If you are uber-serious about NO JUNK FOOD... they will feel judged. But, if you comment casually OFTEN any time the issue comes up, they will start to get the picture. Just be nice, and don't get too annoyed at something not harmful.

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Different Degrees of Grandparents

I think there are different degrees of what grandparents do "wrong" in our eyes. Like others have said, "If if don't hurt them, then don't worry." Unless they watch your kids daily, I agree with this. My wife's parents watch our kids often. Grandpa (Poppy) is the worst. Suckers, pudding, cookies, etc... whatever makes them like him more he gives them. Keep in mind he never gave this to his kids. Usually they only watch them a night or two, so what is the harm. That is the fun for the kids.

If the Grandparents are truly doing things that totally go against your parenting wishes, then that is a stickier issue. I have a problem with my Mom trying to always be Santa for every event. My 3 year old just had a B-day party yesterday, and I headed her off in the driveway to inspect her gifts (mind you, I did not do this with anyone else). I have asked her to only bring one gift like everyone else does, but she brought 3 big gifts. I made her put 2 back in the car.

Good advice above from the other guys. I agree to be careful of your wife's feelings too. Good luck.



DaddyMan
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I can relate

My parental units engage in some "off" activities, so my children haven't even set foot inside their house, and my son is 4, so it's taken a bit of work. They're more than welcome in our abode as long as they give me a five minute warning, otherwise we just see each other at family engagements.

For my in-laws, they live 1800 miles away, so I usually go out of my way to ensure they see the kids as much as possible, even if it means taking a trip of a couple hundred miles as they travel across the country.

As for picking the battles, work on setting up an environment. If you don't like it at their place, have them come over to yours (My Dad stayed with my son in his house while I stayed in the hospital with my wife when the girls were born).

I'd also look to family and friends to swap baby sitting duties. I've had a buddy and his wife watch my son when my wife had to go to the ER. We've payed for babysitting once and recipocate with other families who watch our children. Just make sure it's recipocated. "Look X, Suzy Q and I owe you two a night out. You let me know when you want to go out and we'll watch the chitlins for you." Be semi forceful about it, because some introverts (like my wife and I), occasionally have to be pushed to go out without the kids.

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Out of Town Grandmas...

For us, a pair of Chicago transplants, our parents live out of state. My mom visits about twice a year, a week each time, and when here, my life is a breeze. She's up just before me and the kids, and in an instant has breakfast ready, (I'm talkin' eggs, pancakes, oatmeal, fruit, whatever... plus coffee!), then by the time I'm pouring my second cup, the dishes are clean, the kids fed, their faces wiped, a fresh diaper for the baby and a set of clothes picked out for jr. Within an hour of getting out of bed, we're ready for the day. Without mom, I spend half my day getting this done - I don't know how she does it.

My mother-in-law visits about one week each year. She's an awesome grandma, but when here, it's seems she's afraid she might be violating our space, or intruding in our lives, or disturbing our methods, or whatever. She won't go through any pantry, cabinet or drawer without asking first. And although ready and willing, she won't clean up, make a bottle, or change a diaper unless asked to do so. Also she has a difficult time making decisions, so it's a hard to determine things like what to eat, where to go, etc... With that said, I would still like to have grandma around, or at least available, every day. It may cause me some uneasiness, but overall it's better for the kids. I grew up with all four grandparents in my life, it seems unfair that my kids barely know theirs.

Alby1 - Chicago, IL



jerseydad
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I bit my tongue for a long

I bit my tongue for a long time. Yes, it's important to pick your battles and my battle was how I disciplined my children. I am a firm believer that parents be able to control their children and that the parents are the boss - not the children. When my children need discipline we put them in their rooms to sit and think about what they did wrong. It would only be for a minute but if they didn't last the minute the minute would start again. My MIL had issues with this and butt in on a day I had just about had it with everything. I was on edge and tired so I snapped. I yelled at her pretty loudly to butt out. I apologized later and let me tell you she never opened her mouth again.



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